If you're empty and you can't find meaning in other people, it being service to other people,

and contributing to society, I don't know what we're, I know what we're doing.

Well, welcome. I am very excited to have with me today, Dr. Drew, and we'll be talking

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Dr. Drew, thank you for stopping by Dr. Drew, for those you don't know, and you've been hiding under a rock for the last 20, 30 years.

Dr. Drew is the original host of Loveland, which is where I first got to know his work

just like everybody else.

But he is currently a host over at KBC in Los Angeles on middays.

He also does five separate podcasts.

I've got Adam and Drew, we got the Swole Patrol, which is a health and fitness podcast, and another one with Bob Forrest, got the hat and the glasses that I did celebrity rehab with. Called This Life, it's about mental health and addiction, that kind of stuff. So Dr. Drew has a very, very full plate. Busy. Yeah, exactly. So I'm glad that you had time to come over here and talk with us. I was thinking about as you were talking about the suits I'm going to buy, by the way, it sounds like too good a deal to let go. But I want you to change my mind today. I like, unfortunately, we live in a world where people don't like to change their mind. I cannot understand that. My mind changing is how I grow. That's what I want you to change my

mind. Well, this is why I think, this is why I think so popular. One of the reasons that a lot of

people we have on, I think, are so popular is because if you view life as a journey through

knowledge, I think that you have a much better time doing it, and also you're less likely

become ticked off. So one of the things that's great about what you do is that you talk with a lot of people from a lot of variant points of view, but you're pretty even keel. I mean, you're not in the business to getting angry. The hubris is the furthest thing from what I think I should be. And when people become hubristic, that's where I get pissed. Because the human experience is so complex and so rich, for anybody to stand off and tell you this is how it's got to be, I get a little pissed off.

So before we get into any of the deep stuff, I first want to get something off the table because obviously there's an elephant in the room for those who know our history together. So the first time that we ever met in person is when I was on

your show back on CNN headline news. And it became sort of a cause to lead because there was an

incident with Zoe Tur. Zoe Turr is a transgender woman, a man who is, in my opinion, believes he is a

woman. And Dr. Drew is hosting the show. And in the middle, there was a bit of a conflagration

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