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The Chris Cuomo Project

Dr. Drew Explains How Politics Hijacked Science

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Drew Pinsky (Chief Patient Officer, The Wellness Company, and Podcast Host, "Ask Dr. Drew") joins Chris Cuomo for a wide-ranging conversation about what went wrong during the pandemic and how science was hijacked by politics. Drew explains why mandates lacked bioethical standing, why “irrational certitude” is so dangerous, and why “rational uncertainty” must be at the heart of science. They also discuss long Covid and vaccine injuries, the collapse of trust in institutions, and how arrogance replaced humility in public health. Dr. Drew warns about the dangers of narcissism, scapegoating, and mob thinking, and shares why the pessimism of young people scares him the most. At the same time, he talks about what gives him hope — resilience, families, and the possibility of finding meaning in difficult times. NOTE: This conversation was recorded before the killing of Charlie Kirk. Support our sponsors: Go to cozyearth.com/CHRIS for up to 40% off the best pants, joggers, shirts, everything! Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser! Subscribe & Save for 25% off or more + free shipping on the iRestore REVIVE+ Max Growth Kit, and unlock HUGE savings on the iRestore Elite with the code CHRIS at https://www.irestore.com/CHRIS!" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

What do you think of Dr. Drew Pinsky?

0:02.2

Do you think he's a MAGA guy?

0:03.9

Do you think that he's a rational guy, a balanced guy?

0:07.5

Do you think he's changed?

0:09.2

How about instead of thinking about him, you hear from him?

0:13.1

I wanted to have a conversation here on the Chris Cuomo Project, so thank you for being with me,

0:17.7

for subscribing and following.

0:19.5

And instead of talking about and comments and hot takes, why don't we speak to somebody,

0:25.6

talk to Dr. Drew Pinsky about what he thinks about vaccines and why and the pandemic and

0:30.6

maha and what we need and what we don't need, but then shift gears and get his perspective

0:36.6

on where he thinks we are in terms of diagnosing our society,

0:41.2

what is making us sick here in our heads and in our hearts, not just with body disease,

0:49.1

and does he think it's going to get better? And if so, how?

0:53.1

Really interesting answers from someone I love to talk to.

0:57.4

Dr. Drew.

1:05.1

Doc, always good to see you.

1:07.0

Thank you for being with me.

1:08.0

Let's talk about me and about you and about perception versus reality. Do you believe that you have changed? You know why I'm asking you, right? You know that people say often, oh, he's different now. He's a Trump guy. He's switched. He's different. How do you feel about yourself? No, I have not switched. I'm still

1:29.9

moderate. I spent most of my career. What's so fascinating to me is I spent most of my career

1:35.5

fighting the right, right? I was a strong advocate for morning after contraception and the HPV

1:41.6

vaccine, and they came after me for years and years, years,

1:45.2

and also discussing, you know, difficult material on the airwaves, they came after me.

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