Hey friend, welcome to the Mere Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians? Those of us who aren't pastors or

religious professionals, but who work as writers, gardeners, and marriage counselors.

That's the question we explore every week,

and today I'm posing it to Dr. Denise Daniels.

She's a brilliant researcher and professor of entrepreneurship at Wheaton College

and the co-author of a terrific new book called Religion in a Changing Workplace,

based on five years of rigorous research on faith and work integration,

across religious lines and 15,000 research participants.

Dr. Daniels and I talked about the data that shows that your non-Christian coworkers want to talk about faith,

but they sure as heck don't want to be treated like salvation projects.

We talked about why I am begging you to stop calling your business a, quote, Christian business, end quote.

And we talked about why mere Christians disagree with their pastor's assessment that they

talk about work from the pulpit. This is a fascinating conversation you're not going to want to

miss with my new friend, Dr. Denise Daniels. Dr. Daniels, welcome to the mere Christians podcast.

Thank you, Jordan. It's really great to be here.

I'm excited to have you on.

Hey, so you and your colleagues have spent the last five years or so researching the rule of faith at work.

What was the impetus for this study?

Really, the impetus was, the impetus has been a long time in coming.

I have been really interested in the faith and work space for probably 20 plus years.

Why?

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