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Our brilliant guest this week is an author, broadcaster, an eminent historian Dr David Starkey.

Welcome to Trigonometry.

Hello, both of you.

Thank you very much. All our guests guess so trigonometry is the three of it

yes I get but mostly you we were going to count on so I'm at the top of the

hypotenuse I'm doing most of the triggering.

We normally like to get our guests to introduce themselves,

but you're someone who needs very little introduction,

so why don't we just crack on with it?

We're delighted to have you on the show

because I think the historical perspective and we talked about this before we

started is fascinating because we have such short memories nowadays and I

think it's very tempted.

If memory at all.

If memory at all, exactly.

Nematode words.

And so many things that are happening in society now, the trends, whether it's woke woke culture whether all of these things it's

very tempting I think for us particularly younger people to assume that this none of

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