Hey there. Welcome back to the Energy Blueprint podcast. Today's guest is Dr. David Katz, who I've been a fan of

for a very, very long time. He's been a major influence on my thinking. And I'm grateful for all the

work that he does. He is a preventive

medicine specialist and globally recognized authority on lifestyle medicine. He's the founding

director of Yale University's Yale Griffin Prevention Research Center, past president of the

American College of Lifestyle Medicine, president and founder of the nonprofit True Health

Initiative and founder and CEO of Diet ID Inc. So welcome, Dr. Katz, such a pleasure to

finally speak with you. I was just telling you I've been trying to do this literally for

probably three years now. Well, very kind intro. All right. Great to be with you. Thank you.

Yeah. So I want to talk first about COVID-19. You've obviously

been working, I think 12, 15-hour days. You've had a lot of demands on you. So I thank you for taking

the time out of your day to do this with me. And I want to ask you first about a couple, I think, widespread misconceptions that are out there on this topic.

And you wrote an op-ed piece in the New York Times a month or two ago.

That was...

Feels like lifetimes.

Yeah.

That was...

I personally loved.

I know a lot of people that loved it, but some people

were very critical of and some people had a hard time accepting. I think now the tide has shifted.

I think a lot more people are open to that line of analysis that you were trying to open

discussion on at that time. But you said something in a recent interview, I think that's a good way

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