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Hi everybody. This is Gatsat. Today I've got a truly fantastic evolutionary behavioral scientist. I was going through

Dario's research and I thought it's as if this guy's in my brain. All of the things that interest me,

he's gone out and even done a better job at doing the research. So it's a big honor to, I'm putting my glasses on because your last

name is difficult for a non-Italian. Dario Maestri Pieri. How are you doing, sir? I'm fine. Thank you

for having me. Oh, it's great to be with you. A professor of comparative human development,

evolutionary biology and neurobiology at the University of Chicago.

Currently, you're serving as the editor-in-chief of evolutionary behavioral sciences.

Your books include Science Meets Literature, which is a literary Darwinism book,

games primate play, animal personalities, maternal effects and mammals,

macaqueavelian intelligence.

And I was one of the dumb guys who thought,

how could he make such a typo in his title until I realized that it's actually,

you're talking about intelligence of macaques?

You would not believe how many people thought it was a typo.

Actually, when I was entering it, I fixed it into Machiavellian. I said, something is up. I went back

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