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Dr. Céline Gounder on husband Grant Wahl's death

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

When top soccer journalist Grant Wahl left for Qatar to cover the World Cup in November, his wife, Dr. Céline Gounder, never thought it would be the last time she would see him. The 49-year-old American reporter died suddenly of an aortic aneurism after collapsing in the press box at the end of a match. To add to the tragedy, many on social media falsely blamed Grant’s death on Covid-19 vaccines. Dr. Gounder is an epidemiologist and knows how difficult it is to debunk conspiracy theories. But when the same playbook was used to blame Damar Hamlin’s recent collapse during an NFL game, she says, “the dam broke,” and she decided to write a public essay to try and put an end to the rumors and “refocus attention on Grant’s legacy.” Christiane speaks with Dr. Gounder about how she is managing to channel her grief into purpose in the saddest of circumstances.  Also on today's show: US Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, author Robert Kagan.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunport. Here's what's coming up.

0:07.0

Confronting disinformation amid unspeakable grief. Dr. Saline Gounder speaks out after COVID

0:16.2

anti-Vaxes pounced on her husband's sudden death while covering the World Cup.

0:21.2

Then as China relaxes COVID restrictions, crowding at crematoriums and funeral homes, we have a special

0:29.0

report from Beijing.

0:30.8

Also ahead.

0:31.8

Walter Isakson speaks to the US Secretary of Transportation

0:35.1

Pete Budajev about the widening impact of the bipartisan infrastructure law.

0:40.1

Plus... The problems that we faced as a country throughout the 20th century are still with us.

0:47.2

As the United States wrestles with challenges to its own democracy, does that weaken its global leadership.

0:54.3

I ask Conservative scholar Robert Kagan, who tracks the country's rise as a superpower in his

1:00.4

new book The Ghost at the Feast. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Pristianaman poor in London. When top soccer

1:22.3

journalist Grant Wall left for Qatar to cover the World Cup in

1:26.0

November, his wife, Dr. Saline Gounder, never thought it would be the very last time that she

1:31.6

would see him. The 49 year old American reporter died suddenly of an aortic

1:36.3

aneurysm after collapsing in the press box at the end of a match. His death

1:41.3

shocked the sports world who remembered him as a cheerleader for the

1:45.3

beautiful game in North America, a fearless reporter and a staunch advocate of

1:50.7

equality in sports. To add to the tragedy many on social media falsely

1:55.8

blamed Grant's death on COVID-19 vaccines. Dr Gounder, his widow, is an

2:01.0

epidemiologist and she knows how difficult it is to debunk

2:04.5

conspiracy theories but when the same playbook was used to blame DeMar Hamlin's

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