Hi, I'm Susie Larson.

Thanks for listening to this podcast from Susie Larson Live.

This is an encore presentation of Susie Larson Live.

Welcome to Susie Larson Live. Always honored to get to spend this time with you.

In fact, I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully

inspire you in your faith walk, deepen your understanding of God's word, and that heightens

your awareness of his very real presence in your life. You know, that's one of the reasons this show exists, is to give you time and space away from the vitriol, away from all the bad news where you can exhale, and you can remember once again that God is good and his promises are true, and he will always make a way for you. You know, we all need breaks like that. We need to turn down the noise and so you can hear the still small voice of God. And I just really pray as you listen in today that you are impressed by the Spirit of God that you're loved, that he knows you, that he sees you, he's got a plan for you, and he's got a place for you to put your feet today and tomorrow

and the next day. One of my favorite guests joins me today, Dr. Kurt Thompson. He's a prolific

author. He speaks so much on shame, on the anatomy of the soul, about what it means to be known.

And we're going to talk about a few different things. We're going to talk about perseverance.

We're going to talk about vulnerability. We're going to talk about being known. And this is for men, too, so don't tune me out. We're going to talk about creating beauty, your creativity that you bring to the world, especially when it feels like we're right in the middle of a war zone, how important that is. So I'm going to get him on in just a moment. First, a quick announcement. We are a listener-supported ministry, and if you've never supported Faith Radio, but you feel like you benefit from the ministry, would you consider being part of the giving family? You can give safely and securely online at Myfaithradio.com. And if you're already giving, I just want to say a special thank you because we absolutely couldn't do this without you and we wouldn't want to. I want every one of you, though, be a radio missionary. If you're ministered to by the content that you hear day in and day out on Faith Radio, and share us with a friend. Either way, let's spread the good news together. Thanks so much for being part of our Faith Radio family. All right, let me tell you about my guests. We'll get him on the show. Dr. Kurt Thompson is board-certified psychiatrist and a founder of the Center for Being Known, an organization that develops resources to educate and train leaders on the intersection between interpersonal neurobiology and Christian spiritual formation. I mean, look at it. He's talking my love language here. He's the author of several books, including The Soul of Shame, I must read,

Anatomy of the Soul, another great book.

He and his wife, Phyllis, she's a licensed clinical social worker,

their parents of two children and reside in Arlington, Virginia.

Welcome back, my friend.

Oh, my goodness.

It's so good to be with you.

Thanks so much for having me on. Yes. Thank you. And I know you're such a busy guy. So it means so much. You can give us your time. You know, we like to start every show talking scripts. You're laughing. Is that funny? I'm just like, yeah, like you're not, you're not busy, are you? You're just sitting around eating bonbon. That's all you're doing.

That's exactly right.

And for this lactose intolerant soul, it's not good for me.

Oh, goodness.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

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