So we've read your intellectual books. Most of us know you as this great

debater, but what surprised me a little bit is that you have actually written books

for children. Yes. Can you tell us a little bit about that and why you thought

that is a bad thing? Well, in taking the heart the admonition that I just gave, I wanted to try to raise our children in the instruction and admonition of the Lord. And as a father, I took that seriously.

So I wrote 10 little booklets on the attributes of God

for our two children, Charity and John. And these feature some lovable characters, Brown Bear and Red Goose,

and their little children, the little Cub, John, and the little Gosling Charity, who our children that's their names and this is in fact

our family this this bearing goose family and in these booklets I try to help children have a deeper more expansive concept of God.

God is not just a sort of man with a long white beard sitting on a throne in heaven.

God is all powerful, everywhere present, forever existent, self-existent, all loving and good.

And so we go through these 10 attributes of God in these cartoon booklets in which the little children come to their father and say,

explain this to us and then Papa Bear explains the doctrine to the children using the Bible and answering their questions.

And it's a model for parents, how to engage their children with tough questions,

how to answer them, and especially for fathers,

how to take the lead in instructing your children in Christian doctrine.

So that's the series of 10, as we call them barren goose booklets.

They're the attributes of God for children.

In addition to that, one summer, when the children were somewhat older, I think maybe high schoolish age I thought they need to know the basic rules of the logic and so I

taught Jen and the two kids the basic rules of logic that summer.

Right summer school.

Right, summer school. So you actually taught your kids how to argue.

Yes, in a fact, dangerous, huh?

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