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Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy and I am joined today by a returning guest on his own this time

flying solo among many things he is a biochemist and author and was deputy

administrator of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies

where he led the day-to-day operations in executing the OSHAP contract

back in Skinn Walker Ranch with the DIA.

Welcome back to the podcast Dr.

Colm Keller. Call me welcome back.

Great to see it Andy.

Do you know what? You're one of those guests where it's very hard to nail down a good

bio for you because you've got so many things attached to your name it's like what do you pick and what do you not so you never want to upset anyone do you?

No I mean well my bio is pretty sort of broad, but I guess the most pertinent things about the

bio would be spending eight years as a team leader and project manager on Skin Walker

Ranch reporting to Robert Bigelow, and that was between 1996, 2004, and then between 2008 and 2010, I was also reported to Robert Bigelow under the auspices of Bigelow

of Bigelow Advanced Space Studies executing the so-called OSHA program, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems

Application Program. But my background is biochemistry, molecular biology. I've done a

lot of I've done a lot of, I've done a lot of research on the bench. So I know

how to set up controlled experiments and that's one of the things about this field that we don't have the luxury in many cases of setting up controlled repeated experiments.

And you've been on the podcast before like I mentioned so I would encourage folks who haven't listened to those with George to go back and check them out

We're going to discuss a few different areas we're going to touch on the book that I spoke to George about that you co-authored

with James Lacatsky and George Knapp initial revelations. It's now been a few months since release and I wonder

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