And then the challenge becomes, okay, I know who I am. Now, how do I stay true to that while living in a world that, as you say, is constantly trying to pull me away from that?

Don't you know that the music should be solemn?

This is Theo Rossi.

This is theory.

I sit alone in my four-cornered room staring at candles.

Today, today on theory, I get to sit down with my favorite author of the moment, a book that I just

can't stop recommending to people called Civilized to Death.

His name is Dr. Christopher Ryan, and he's so much more than that.

He co-authored another book that's absolutely amazing called Sex at Dawn, and then also has a podcast called Tangentially Speaking.

You know, I knew all about him because he's been on Rogan a bunch.

And I just needed to speak with him, especially now.

And since then, you know, we've spoken a lot offline and he's been extremely helpful

for me on this,

this journey with theory. So without further ado, let's go sit down with my fellow human,

Dr. Christopher Ryan. All right. We're back for, uh, it's multiple times, but here we are. I'm getting to know you pretty well, man.

Yeah, we are. Between my new best friend, I'm going to be borrowing money from you pretty soon.

Oh, man, I, I, you know, between this and listening to the book and the audible and I go back and

listen to other chapters and I feel like you're like you're in my life all the time.

It's an incredible thing. But aren't you, you're heading out somewhere soon, aren't you?

What are you doing? You're going on the road? Yeah, I'm going on the road in my van, Scarlett

Joe Vanson. She and I tend to spend the summers together. Last summer, I was five months in the van last summer, which is why I gave up my apartment.

After that, I came back, I was like, I just paid, you know, whatever it was, 10 grand in rent for no reason, you know, just to like have a place to leave the clothes I never wear.

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