Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens, and I'm Jan Black.

And we can think of no better guests to have during these very trying times than our guest today, Dr. Christian

Bush. He spent a decade exploring how we can use uncertainty as a pathway to more joyful,

purposeful, and successful lives. Dr. Bush is the director of the Global Economy Program at New York

University's Center for Global Affairs, where he teaches on purpose-driven leadership,

impact entrepreneurship, social innovation, and emerging markets. He's the author of the new book,

The Serendipity Mindset, The Art and Science of Creating Good Luck. Dr. Bush, thank you so much for

joining us. Thank you so much for having me. I think a lot of us view good luck. Dr. Bush, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

I think a lot of us view good luck as simply chance. You say there's an art and science to

creating good luck. Yeah, I mean, one thing I found fascinating in my work as community builder,

entrepreneur and in the last year's also a researcher is that you know I've come

frequently across those people who just seemed a little bit luckier than others and

you know these would be kind of CEOs or social entrepreneurs or teachers or just

people where when you talk with friends about them they would be like oh yeah no

he had this X Y Z happen and I didn't know how he did it but or she did it but

actually just happened and so I got really curious about how do these people do that? What are the

underlying patterns that somehow make them a little bit luckier than others? And so it's really

about this idea that there are a lot of things in life we cannot influence, right? I mean,

if we're born into a family that is very loving, I mean, that is blind luck.

We can't really influence that, unless there's ways now, but I wouldn't know about it.

But the smart luck, that's really about saying those people see something in the unexpected,

and then they turn it into positive outcomes. And so if you take,

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