The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others.

Every week, I host a conversation with the Christian

who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft.

We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how. their is the world-renowned Dr. Caroline Leif.

She's a cognitive neuroscientist with a master's

and PhD in Communication Pathology.

Since the early 1980s, Dr Leaf has been leading scientific discovery in terms of the field of mental health, mental direction.

She's the author of the mammoth best-selling book Switch on Your Brain and 18 others, we sat down and

had a terrific conversation recently about her five-step neurocycle that can help us practically live out Paul's

command to renew our minds and to take every thought captive at work and at home.

We talked about the spirituality of science and what we can learn about mental health from Jesus in the Garden of

Gatsimity. You're going to love this conversation with Dr. Caroline Lee.

Dr. Leif,

Dr. Leif, thank you so much for joining us.

Oh, thank you. much for joining us.

Oh, thank you.

It's great to meet you and I'm excited to talk to you.

Yeah, this would be fun.

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