I can remember as a Christian when we were marked as being anti-science, but we find that when it's

convenient for progressives, they would throw science out the window to push an agenda.

Dr. Carol Swain has been a tenured associate professor at Princeton and the professor of political science

and law at Vanderbilt. She's known for her sharp cultural and political commentary and multiple

book releases. Could you give us a little of your backstory and explain why the American dream

matters to you so much? Well, first of all, you know, I'm probably a lot older than

most of the people. I'm part of the baby boom generation, the early end of that. And in my day,

we were told that the way to make something of yourself was to work hard and get an education.

And so education mattered. But I happened to have been born in a family that grew to 12 children, rural poverty,

southwestern Virginia. I dropped out of school after completing eighth grade, not because of anything except the poverty.

I married at 16, not because I was pregnant, but back then, if you could get married,

that was a way to get away from home.

So I married at 16, had my first child at 17.

By the time I was 21, I had three small children. And I suffered with depression, the suicide gestures.

And I can tell you that within my family, it was an uneasy fit.

I can remember as a child feeling out of place,

and almost feeling like a participant observer.

And anyone who's done social science research knows that there's a form of research where

you sort of immerse yourself into an environment and you do what the people in the environment

do, but you're really studying them.

And I can remember just watching my family and feeling like, first,

that they were strange, they were not like me,

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