Welcome to the pretty intense podcast on the show today is

Scientists and Professor Ben Bickman. He's actually a metabolic scientist. He studies insulin in particular as one of his areas of expertise,

but fat cells, he's got a lab that he's feeding and growing fat cells and all kinds of crazy stuff.

He also is an author, he has a book called Why We Get Sick, which is hugely popular.

Doesn't everyone want to know that? Knowledge is power, guys.

We started off with just kind of the simple question that I feel like arises within so many of us which is why do I get fat and how do I get skinny? I feel like it's a very linear comprehensive conversation

about a topic that can be a little complicated for sure.

Things like, you know, what is that fat coffee doing with butter and MCT oil in the morning what role is that playing in ketones what's actually happening are our fat cells locked in on the amount that we have do they grow and shrink or do they go up and down in the count? I mean, all of these questions get asked.

And so I think this is an insanely valuable episode to understanding how the body works and how to

maximize it for the most efficient fat burning and to essentially lead to not only a longer life but your best

looking body in the meantime.

So I hope you enjoy it.

Please hit subscribe if you like this. Please let us know in the comments, your thoughts, and maybe some tips and tricks. What's been working for you? But in the meantime, enjoy this episode and this deep dive with Ben Bickman on really insulin.

We definitely don't have enough time today.

I have so many questions as I always do when it comes to health, but I thought I would start with sort of like the simplest, maybe,

maybe simplest sort of baseline and also maybe one of the biggest curiosities is just why do we get fat and why and how do we get skinny?

Yeah. And by skinny I mean healthy. I don't know I get it.

skinny fat. Okay great. We great. We're just looking at both

ends of the spectrum here. Yeah, yeah, how do we get rid of the fat we don't want?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so it's, I wish it were as easy as most people claim which is purely you know everyone so

emphatically and enthusiastically invokes the laws of thermodynamics you know that's this whole idea of calories in calories out.

Thus you need nothing more than to put yourself into a caloric deficit by eating less,

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