Hi guys welcome back to the skincare anarchy this is the real sector and I am so excited about the

guest that we have here today. I am truly humbled that she's joining us and I want to introduce you guys to

Dr. Ava Champin.

She is a distinguished ward certified dermatologist, a Harvard graduate, and the author of Heil Your

Skin.

Dr. Ava is renowned for her work in dermatology including her appearances on CBS's The Doctors and ABC's

Extreme Makeover. With a career spanning both clinical practice and media she brings a wealth of

expertise and insight into the world of skin health and

that's why I'm just so thrilled to be hosting her here today. Welcome to the show

Dr. Shamba and I'm so honored to host you. Oh thank you Echta and then please call me Ava. Okay, I will. Well, it's lovely to have you on the show,

Ava, I'm so excited to learn from you. I'm honestly, and I can't wait to dive in,

but I want to get started. If you could tell us a little bit about what got you into

dermatology you know what led to you pursuing this route in medicine so I actually

dermatology was just something I kind of more backed into. I was very

interested in finding a specialty that had a combination of medicine and surgery and

because of my personality is in between both and so I don't know how

familiar you are with the personalities of various specialties but surgeons

tend to be like let's get it done and internal medicine people like let's just

talk about things for a couple of days and then we'll figure out what we're going to do.

So it was definitely not in that camp, but I was definitely more in the camp for the surgery like let's think about it a little bit

before we actually do it so dermatology was a really nice mix of the two and it turned

out that I was super lucky because when I started dermatology it was really a lot about just our skin illnesses such

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