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🗓️ 29 November 2025
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Former USAID official for the Bureau of Global Health Dr. Atul Gawande details the implications of dismantling USAID as well as his new documentary Rovina's Choice. Laura K. Field examines her new book Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
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| 0:04.6 | Hi, I'm Molly JongFast and this is Fast Politics, where we discuss the top political headlines |
| 0:10.9 | with some of today's best minds. |
| 0:13.2 | We're on vacation, but that doesn't mean we don't have a great show for you today. |
| 0:16.7 | Former assistant administrator for USAID. |
| 0:20.3 | Atul Gawande stops by to talk about the implications |
| 0:23.9 | of the dismantling of USAID. |
| 0:26.4 | But first, we have Laura K. Field to talk about her new book, Furious Minds, The Making of the Maga |
| 0:32.1 | New Right. Welcome to fast politics, Laura. Thank you so much for having me, Molly. |
| 0:37.4 | The book is Furious Minds, The Making of the Mendes. Welcome to fast politics, Laura. Thank you so much for having me, Molly. |
| 0:43.3 | The Book is Furious Minds, the making of the MAGA new right. |
| 0:48.1 | Now, this is, first of all, I have many, many, many questions, |
| 0:50.0 | but I want you to first talk about. So this is like the intellectual movement shaping Donald Trump's agenda. |
| 0:55.3 | Now, again, this is Donald Trump. |
| 0:58.3 | So it is a little bit oxymoronic, the idea that there's an intellectual movement here. |
| 1:03.1 | But actually, there really is. |
| 1:04.9 | And like, well, Trump 1.0, the intellectual movement was basically like bronzer. |
| 1:10.8 | Trump 2.0, they did actually manage to put together sort of the worst of conservative thinking and the worst of authoritarianism and the worst of Trumpism. So sort of give us the top line of what that looks like. Yes, thank you. So the book covers 2016 through 2024, and it tries to articulate the coalescence of this |
| 1:31.6 | movement. |
| 1:32.5 | And it started in 2016, but as you said, it was kind of nascent for the first whole administration. |
| 1:38.8 | There are key moments. |
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