Hey, everybody. It's Jonathan Cohn here at the bulwark. Yesterday, Donald Trump at the White House.

Well, not exactly sure to describe what we saw. It was a press appearance. The White House had billed it as a

major announcement on autism. The president proceeded to offer medical advice.

Don't take Tylenol. Don't take it.

Commonly used in pregnancy, which he said was linked to autism.

Then he proceeded to talk about vaccines.

Too many different things are going into that baby.

At too big a number, the size of this day, when you look at it, it's like 80 different

vaccines. There was a lot. To unpack it

all, to talk about it all, we have with us today, Ashish Jha, physician, dean at the School of Public

Health at Brown University, somebody who is not just, doesn't us possess a vast trove of medical knowledge but sort of exudes

common sense reasonableness which is really what I think we need in this moment. Ashish,

thanks for joining us here at the bulwark. Hey, thanks for having me here. I'm excited to go with you.

So before we get into the eye, because I want to go through a lot of the claims that were made and talk about the science behind them and, you know, candidly and get a realistic view. But before we get to all of that, you watched this yesterday, this press conference that President Trump gave. And what did you, what did what did you think? Um, I thought it was awful. I thought it was possibly the worst public health conference coming out of the

White House I have ever seen. It made, it was worse than the bleach presser from the pandemic

times. And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something

like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? The president said a whole lot of things,

including gave very, very direct medical advice that were, my view, largely not true.

But what he also did, in my view, it's hard to see it any other way, is he blamed millions of

women for their children developing autism and made it much, much harder for pregnant women moving forward to be able to manage

their pregnancies by telling them they can't take colonel. Like, this is not how we do this in this

country. We should not have the president making these proclamations. I'm happy to get into the

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