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Henry Wallace is a good example because when you have a serial killer, you've got multiple victims.

And you don't want to blur them all together.

So I would have Henry talk about them and draw.

And the other good thing about drawing is you can then use that in a kind of third,

distant way to say, gee, now what was going on over here?

What is this all about?

And you can use it to get more of the detail so you're not just sitting there talking with them.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dosson, a nonfiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas.

I'm also the host of the Historical True Crime Podcast, Tenfold More Wicked, as well as

the co-host of the new show, Bairied Bones, both on exactly right.

I've traveled around the world interviewing people for the show.

I've interviewed some people in person and some from my home studio over Zoom.

And they are all excellent writers.

They've had so many great true crime stories.

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