Hey everybody welcome to the mere Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals, but who work as mathematicians,

drywall installers, and curators?

That's the question we explore every week and today

I'm posing it to Dr. Amy Sherman. She is one of the deepest thinkers in the

world on how the gospel shapes the work that mere Christians do.

And by the way, if you're curious what I've been writing, what's going to follow

redeeming your time of the word before work, this episode and Skye-Gathani's episode from last year are about the best

previews you can possibly get. Dr Sherman and I sat down to talk about how the quote, too narrow gospel end quote, and our bad

theology about heaven is blocking your vision for your work.

We talked about the four pathways for stewarding your vocation for the advancement of the kingdom of God.

And we talked about why we should all think of our lives as ice cream tasting spoons. This is my favorite episode we've done in a very long time.

I think you're going to love it. Please enjoy this great conversation with Dr Amy Sherman. Dr Sherman, welcome to the Muir Christians podcast. I've been a long time

admirer of yours from afar for years. I can't believe this is the first time

we're talking live so welcome.

Oh, thank you that's very kind. Thank you for inviting to be to be on the

podcast. Yeah. So I want to focus our conversation on this extraordinary book you published a few years ago called

Kingdom Calling and the book is really focused on what it means to be the righteous

people that are described in Proverbs 1110.

Can you share the context of that verse

and why you think it's so important

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