Hey guys and welcome to episode 63 of the OCD stories.

podcast. Now in this episode I got Alan Wegg on the podcast.

Alan is a therapist and he treats people with OCD.

He runs a clinic in New Jersey and he is an affiliate of the ISDF.

And I got him on because he wrote a book about using storytelling in the treatment of OCD. Now he's not saying

storytelling itself will help people recover but what he is saying which I found

very interesting is the use of storytelling can help people understand key concepts

in therapies such as ERP or CBT and I think that's great because sometimes, you know, especially clinicians and psychologists, they study hard, they're academic, they're very intelligent people usually, and they learn all these big terms and you know and

talking about these terms cognitive dissonance diffusion all this stuff psychological flexibility

and you mention it to a client

someone who's there for therapy and it might just go over their head because that's

not their schooling they've never read anything about it so why would they get it and I like the way

Alan uses stories to make it like these big concepts make them completely

relatable and understandable to the client.

And I think that's a very powerful thing.

And storytelling is something I believe in clearly

because of the name of this podcast and site, the OCD C. D. stories.

I believe we've we learn our history

through the use of storytelling.

Before we had books and stuff,

we would have been sitting around fires as gave men and gave women

sharing stories and that's kind of how we learn

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