Downstream: What Really Changed on 7th October w/ Ahmed Alnaouq, Yara Eid and Tareq Baconi
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🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Just over two years after the beginning of the genocide in Gaza, and just days after the announcement of a ceasefire, Aaron Bastani spoke to three Palestinian writers in front of a live audience at EartH in Hackney.
Ahmed Alnaouq is the host of Palestine Deep Dive and the co-founder of ‘We Are Not Numbers’, an organisation that provides international mentors for Palestinian writers.
Yara Eid is a war journalist, born and raised in Gaza, who has worked for Amnesty International and been published in The New Arab.
Tareq Baconi is the former senior analyst for Israel/Palestine and Economics of Conflict at the International Crisis Group, based in Ramallah, and the author of Hamas Contained: The Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance.
Aaron spoke to Ahmed, Yara and Tareq about whether the ceasefire gives them hope, what really shifted on 7th October 2023, and how the genocide has changed them.
All of the guests’ work features in the new book, Gaza: The Story of A Genocide, which is available from Verso.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm very happy for the second part of tonight's event |
| 0:10.0 | to be joined by three extraordinary people. |
| 0:13.0 | Ahmed Al-Noak, Yara Eid and Tarek's longer piece, is, I believe, the introduction of your book. |
| 0:32.0 | Is that correct? |
| 0:32.6 | That's right, yeah. |
| 0:34.0 | Very, very interesting and highly pertinent, given the ceasefire. |
| 0:39.5 | I'm going to ask each of you a few questions, and I think you're all going to want to feed in and then we'll have a broader conversation. |
| 0:43.8 | Ahmed, I want to talk to you. Tell me, tell us all here tonight, what happened to your family in Gaza in October |
| 0:51.5 | 2023? Thank you very much for having me first. |
| 0:55.0 | And I'm glad you asked me this question. |
| 0:58.0 | And I know many of our friends here heard this story a hundred times maybe, |
| 1:03.0 | but I'm glad you asked it because since that day happened, |
| 1:07.0 | I promised myself and I promised the world that I will keep telling the story of my family |
| 1:11.6 | every time until the day I die. |
| 1:14.6 | And Aaron, it's, I have a very big family in Gaza. |
| 1:19.6 | I had a father, a mother, nine, I had eight siblings in Gaza. |
| 1:23.6 | Most of them married with lots of children. |
| 1:26.6 | We always were very happy and proud that |
| 1:30.3 | we are a very big family and they used to enjoy it. I used to love it very much. |
| 1:34.3 | And when at the beginning of the genocide, my married sisters chose to come to my family's home. |
| 1:42.3 | Why? Because they thought that this home, this area in the Gaza Strip is the safest place they can be. |
| 1:50.0 | My three sisters and all of their children, my brothers, my two brothers, my father, all of them were sleeping in my home on the 22nd of October when Israel dropped the bomb killing all of them. |
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