Everybody knows that inequality is getting worse.

Well, almost everybody.

Anybody serious?

Anyway, for Gary Stevenson, that is the essential trend,

not just the last 15 years, the next 15 years too.

Not that long ago, Gary was one of the most successful traders

on the planet.

Now he's a campaigner around inequality, though.

He still does the occasional trade as well.

An amazing guy with really interesting insights

as to what happens next.

I really enjoyed this conversation.

Gary, it's great to have you joining us on Downstream.

Thank you.

We've got a lot to talk about.

We'll start right from the beginning.

H-22 in 2008, you got a job as a trader at City Group

in Gary Wharf within two years

you made your first million pounds.

That's a position that a lot of young people aspire to,

but you started from a very humble beginning.

So can you walk us through your story

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