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Downstream: Silicon Valley Fraudsters Are Lying to Us w/ Paris Marx

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Philosophy, News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

It’s one of the few things that the late anarchist anthropologist David Graeber and tech billionaire Peter Thiel agreed on: the sci-fi future we were promised has not materialised. Where are the flying cars? Where are the teleportation machines? And why, instead, do we just have 15 different ride-hailing apps to choose from? In this […]

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0:00.0

Instead of the teleportation and replicating the machines we were promised, tech disruptors

0:12.1

have only managed to deliver new ways of getting mini-cabs and ways of invisibilising labour.

0:17.7

So why has capitalism stopped innovating?

0:20.3

Why are my chances of being impregnated by Elon Musk low but never as close to zero as

0:26.5

I would like?

0:28.0

With me to discuss all this and more is Paris Marx, author of The Road to Nowhere, and

0:32.8

also host of the podcast, Tech Won't Save Us.

0:36.3

Hi Paris, welcome to Downstream.

0:38.7

Thanks so much for having me on the show, I'm really excited.

0:40.9

I'm really sorry that this isn't taking place in the metaverse.

0:44.7

It would have been much better if we were avatars with no legs and, you know, looked

0:48.9

really terrible, but unfortunately they have to see the real us.

0:51.7

To be fair, I don't think you can see our legs in this shot, so.

0:54.7

Fair, we might not have legs.

0:56.6

We booked The Road to Nowhere, focuses on transportation.

0:59.0

Why transportation in particular?

1:00.6

Yeah, it's a good question and I think for me, in part, it was because transportation

1:04.9

was really a route into, you know, having a more critical lens on the tech industry.

1:10.3

Because I was interested in transportation, I was really into climate change and, you know,

1:14.9

like a long time train nerd.

1:16.9

I probably wouldn't go that far.

1:18.9

It would be difficult to be a train nerd being from a place with no train.

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