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🗓️ 25 August 2025
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0:00.0 | One of the major stories of the 21st century so far has been the rise of China, the rise of its economy, the emergence of the country as a technology leader, the growth of its military. |
0:19.0 | By 2030, this one country, albeit of 1.4 billion |
0:23.8 | people, will account for 45% of all global manufacturing output. Quite extraordinary. How did it happen |
0:33.3 | and what lessons can be learned by the West from the rise of China? |
0:38.4 | How come in some areas, like the build-out of high-speed rail, the US is failing, while China is a global superstar? |
0:47.0 | Now, when you talk about China, when you try to examine its failures and successes, you're often given one of two stories. On the one hand, |
0:56.9 | China is running away with it. It's leaving the West behind and the dust. We're looking at |
1:02.6 | the Chinese miracle, the Asian century. Or you get a very different story. China is on the brink |
1:10.2 | of collapse. Its economic model is not what |
1:12.1 | you think. Its GDP data is phony. None of the facts can be taken seriously. Yes, it's had a good |
1:19.4 | few decades, but it's in no way shaping up to be a global hegemon this century or, for that matter, |
1:26.2 | the next either. So where does the future lie? Well, that's |
1:30.8 | precisely the topic of the book I'm discussing today, Breakneck. It's author Dan Wong is one of the |
1:38.7 | leading experts on China and technology. He lived in China for six years, working for Gavacal Dragonomics, looking at |
1:47.0 | technology trends like microprocessor production, the green economy, looking also at the politics |
1:54.8 | and the political culture of China in the era of Xi Jinping. They became must-read missives. He's now back in the US. He's lived in one |
2:04.8 | empire allegedly on the way up and another on the way down. I can think a few people better |
2:10.7 | placed to offer a coherent, fair, objective assessment of what China gets right and what it gets wrong. |
2:20.7 | Dan Wong, welcome to Downstream. |
2:23.1 | My pleasure to be here, Aaron. |
2:25.0 | I am so looking forward to this conversation. |
2:27.0 | Sadly, we only have a proof copy of your book. |
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