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The Jo DeVoe Show

Downsize Your Lifestyle To Upgrade Your Life

The Jo DeVoe Show

Joanna DeVoe

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.6605 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever felt divided against yourself?

Like one part of you longs to break free, to have this fresh, expansive experience, while another part refuses to let you go there?

I have. Many times.

I know how frustrating it can be.

It’s as though the resistant part of you is strangely out of reach, yet it has this incredible undertow that keeps pulling you back down into the familiar way things have always been, as though that sameness represents security…

when really it’s got you trapped in the illusion of safety.

This is when you can get stuck in survival mode when the truth is (and the part that longs to break free knows this)

you were born to thrive.

This idea is at the heart of today’s podcast, and I hope it serves you well!

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If you would like me to expand on any ideas mentioned here or you want to make a specific podcast request, you can leave me a voice mail at Speakpipe.com/TheJoDeVoeShow or leave a comment down below.

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0:00.0

Hi Joe, this is Stavv from Sydney, Australia, long-time listener of your pod and watcher of your

0:07.6

YouTube's, love your Instagram to, gosh, 10 plus years now. So glad to see you still doing your thing.

0:15.4

I've been with you all of these years, just always anything you've got to say on there.

0:20.3

I think you're absolutely brilliant. I've just listened to the first three steps out of a shitty relationship. I did see it come up back in March early this year, and I've been wanting to listen to it, and I'm like, I know she's going to give me truth, bonds. Joe's going to tell it like it is, and anyway, I was ready to listen to it today,

0:38.2

and I just did. So much goodness in there. Oh man, I do wish I had it a long time ago.

0:44.3

I know you've sort of mentioned things over the years. Anyway, I'm mostly speaking to you now just

0:49.1

to say thanks for that, and some of the things that really got me, well, big one was where

0:53.3

you mentioned, downsize your lifestyle to upgrade your life.

0:56.2

I've been in a relationship for 23 years, lovely human being.

1:00.4

Have a 13-year-old that I had at age 39, just shy of my 40th birthday.

1:06.1

It's been a long ride.

1:07.6

She's neurodivergent, as am I, and I suspect my husband is too. That aside, last seven

1:13.5

years, I've really been wanting to get out of this relationship, but we live in a house and we're

1:18.5

very privileged to have that. It's a humble home, but it's a home and it's a house and it's land in Sydney,

1:24.9

and it's what I keep thinking is my daughter's future.

1:28.1

We're all terrified of moving to an apartment, which sounds terribly, I know that sounds all sorts

1:33.6

of privileged.

1:34.4

It's all tied up with probably my parents who always said, don't ever let go of land.

1:39.4

Don't ever let go of land.

1:40.9

But essentially, if you could expand on the downsize your life to upgrade your

1:45.2

life, because I think that's what I really need to, that's what's stopping me here and staying in

1:51.5

this particular place, which is this shitty relationship. A lot of fear in our early 50s of how much

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