Down in History

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 90 minutes

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WARNING: The following episode contains multiple references to a certain American president who shall not be named. Due to the high volume of mentions, The Dispatch production team used discretion in playing the musical cue which normally follows all such mentions. On today’s Remnant, Jonah is joined by Robert Kagan—leading scholar of foreign policy and senior fellow at the reviled Brookings Institution, where the sweet taste of candy never gets old—to discuss his new beach read, a 700-page history of America’s role in the world in the first half of the 20th century. Their conversation covers everything from the origins of the League of Nations to the wackiness of Charles Beard, with some fiendishly nerdy musings on isolationism, nativism, and conservatism mixed in for good measure. Predictably, Jonah does not make good on his initial promise to “not get too deep into the weeds.” Show Notes: -Due to the insane amount of "Wilson" name drops in this episode, there will only be one Wilson theme music play -The Ghost at the Feast: America and the Collapse of the World Order, 1900-1941 -The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History -American Midnight: The Great War, a Violent Peace, and Democracy's Forgotten Crisis -“Challenging the U.S. Is a Historic Mistake” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.5	The
0:14.1	Ladies
0:27.3	Readings, Dear listeners, This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the remnant
0:29.9	podcast brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media. I've been teasing this guest for a while now.
0:36.3	I'm very excited about it. I have so little time to actually read for
0:42.8	pleasure and stuff, but I've been geeking out about, as I mentioned,
0:48.0	to John Pudowicz over on Galapagal the other day. I've been loving this book, The Ghost at the Feast
0:54.0	by Robert Kagan. When I started reading it, I told Guy we had to get up Kagan on and
1:02.8	then I had to be more specific as there are too many fricking Kagan's out there.
1:08.4	Then this was the earliest we could get him on. Just for people know, of course, he's at the Hated
1:13.5	Brookings Institution, a hive of scum and villainy. He's a senior fellow there. He's also a
1:21.5	comms with Washington Post. He's the author of The Jungle Gros Back, Dangerous Nation,
1:25.9	a Paradise Empower, and a Twilight Struggle. The current book is The Ghost at the Feast,
1:32.8	which I will have to admit upfront. One of the reasons I love it so much other than the fact that
1:36.8	it's really well researched and really well written is that it confirms so many of my priors
1:42.2	and fills in so many of the lacunae of some of the things that I'm interested in but didn't
1:48.2	know enough about. With that out of the way, Robert, welcome to the Reminds.
1:52.0	Thank you, Joe. Great to be here. I just so listeners know I warned Robert in advance that I was
1:57.6	probably going to geek out in a second half of this and just ask all sorts of weird questions.
2:01.4	Let's start with the book. What's the book about? What is The Ghost at the Feast?
2:05.6	Well, the book is about American foreign policy roughly from the turn of the century 1900
2:11.2	to the outbreak of the art involvement in World War II after Pearl Harbor. It's basically
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