Doves Die in Ukraine: When Did Liberals Turn On Peace? With Eugene Puryear
The Socialist Program with Brian Becker
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🗓️ 26 May 2022
⏱️ 63 minutes
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As the U.S./NATO proxy war in Ukraine against Russia rages, the imperialist establishment is increasingly united behind a strategy of escalation. Brian and Eugene Puryear trace the development of this increasingly hostile approach over the years and decades; and review the most important recent military, economic and political developments in the conflict.
Eugene Puryear is the host of the BreakThrough News podcast The Punch Out, and co-host of the BT live video show The Freedom Side.
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| 0:00.0 | U.S. politicians and the corporate media are starting to talk about a possible nuclear war with Russia. |
| 0:09.5 | Joe Biden is talking about fighting China over Taiwan. Where is this all headed? |
| 0:16.6 | We need a new system. We need a new society. We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago, but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. Welcome to this week's episode of The Real Story on the Socialist program. |
| 0:56.1 | I'm your host, Brian Becker. |
| 0:58.1 | Today we're talking once again with Eugene per year. |
| 1:00.8 | Eugene is an author and activist and also a journalist with Breakthrough News. |
| 1:05.3 | Eugene, welcome back. |
| 1:07.1 | Brian, thank you so much for having me. |
| 1:08.7 | You're a host of The Punch Out, the Daily Podcast. |
| 1:11.5 | You're on Breakthrough News. |
| 1:13.0 | You're also an author of books and articles. |
| 1:15.8 | You recently had an important article in Liberation News. |
| 1:19.2 | People can see it at liberationnews.org. |
| 1:22.0 | The theme of your article or the headline of your article is, |
| 1:25.9 | is NATO really to blame for the war in Ukraine? |
| 1:29.8 | You make an interesting point in there because if someone were to say on the mainstream media, |
| 1:35.1 | look, this is NATO's fault. The U.S. refused to negotiate. NATO didn't need to expand. |
| 1:41.2 | This was an unnecessary war. They'd be treated like they had done some terrible |
| 1:46.5 | crime. You compare it to like Holocaust denialism because that's the tone in the tenor right now. |
| 1:53.1 | If you say NATO is responsible in the U.S. mainstream media, you're going to be scorched. |
| 1:58.8 | I think that's 100% correct. I mean, even the New York Times editorial board who had an extraordinarily tepid editorial, just saying that the U.S. should start to think about, you know, what the endgame should be and say to Ukraine that the U.S. can't provide unlimited aid. They were excoriated all across the media, all across social media, as some sort of traitors. And, you know, this is the New York Times here. |
| 2:19.1 | But this is exactly why I wrote this piece is NATO to blame, because so much of the context of what's happening is around, you know, what happened on February 24th, you know, period, that Russia invaded Ukraine. |
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