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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Doug Wilson On Romans 9

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2020

⏱️ 121 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Leighton Flowers, Director of Evangelism and Apologetics for Texas Baptists, hosts a discussion on Romans 9 in contrast to the teaching of Doug Wilson.

We will be responding to this video by Doug Wilson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrSby...

Here is a short video produced by Dr. Flowers going through Rom. 9:13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZrV...

Here is a longer verse by verse exegesis through Romans 9 by Dr. Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCOJC...

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Sociology 101 Live.

0:05.0

We are going to be responding to Doug Wilson and a video broadcast that he did recently being asked the question about an Armenian or a more corporate view of election with regard to Romans chapter 9.

0:19.0

And before we jump into that, I do want to just remind

0:22.5

us that Peter warned us in 2 Peter chapter 3 that Paul's teaching was sometimes confusing

0:29.4

and difficult to understand. And so if an apostle who was associated with the church in Rome,

0:34.5

by the way, Peter was known to be a part of the church in Rome. so he very likely was referring to the letter of Paul to Rome, very likely even the section

0:42.4

that we have trouble with today when he talked about how people can mistake and misunderstand

0:47.5

some of Paul's teaching because Paul did have a tendency to go deep. And because of that,

0:53.6

there were people who were misunderstanding

0:55.1

even in the first century what Paul was meaning to say. And so that's why I think we have some

1:01.1

differences of opinion with regard to our take on Romans 9. I believe that our position, the position

1:08.9

that holds to a libertarian freedom of the will, that we have a will

1:12.8

that is autonomous from God, not that God is not able to control or not able to overcome what we

1:19.1

do, but that God in his sovereignty has chosen to give us freedom. I think that is the best,

1:24.1

most rational response because it gives us a reason as to why we have different opinions

1:29.7

about Romans 9, for example. As Christians, we interpret Romans 9 differently. Why? Because we have

1:34.3

libertarian freedom of the will. Otherwise, you've got God ordaining some children to misinterpret his

1:38.8

Bible, his text. And that doesn't make a lot of rational sense in my estimation for God to actually ordain some of his children to interpret scripture rightly and some of his children to interpret it wrongly. I think it makes more sense that he's given us true libertarian freedom and therefore we make mistakes sometimes. We make errors. And because of that, we call each other out. We push each other. We're iron sharpening iron.

2:02.3

And I will be introducing you to the panel in just a moment. We've got a panel of

2:07.4

provisionist, if you will, or I should say, just non-Calvinist, others that agree with

2:12.2

sociologically my perspective on some points, on other points. They disagree with me. And we

2:16.8

push each other back and forth on

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