I am Jonathan Cape Heart and welcome to Cape Up.

Senator Doug Jones of Alabama cast perhaps the most important vote of his Senate career.

He voted to convict President Trump on both

articles of impeachment. It could cost him his seat this November, but the man

elected to fill Jeff Sessions' seat doesn't care.

He says it was the right thing to do.

Senator Jones, thank you for coming back to the podcast.

Oh, my pleasure.

Enjoyed it the last time, and I'm sure I will this time.

Well, you have had a momentous few weeks and by that I mean your vote on both articles of impeachment to convict President Trump.

And in your speech and on the floor of the Senate you said there will be so many

that will simply look at what I'm doing today and say it is a profile in courage.

It is not, it is simply a matter of right and wrong.

We're doing right is not a courageous act. It is simply following your oath. And I bring up that quote because it was it was stirring and I cheered it on in a tweet, but President Trump won Alabama by 28 points in 2016.

And according to the Morning Consul poll that I just looked at in January his

approval rating is 60% yeah I don't believe that by the way the highest in the country you don't believe that at all I don't believe that by the way. The highest in the country you don't believe that at all. I don't I've seen a number of

different things. I don't believe it's not too far off, but I do believe it's lower than that

and what that concept poll is also missing out a little bit is as

negatives have been a gradually growing so that gap is narrowing considerably.

Well I bring I bring up the election totals in that particular poll result to ask just a blunt question.

Did your vote to convict on the two articles of impeachment? did your

on the two articles of impeachment seal your defeat this November?

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