This is Off Track.

I'm just shocked you. I haven't blocked my email yet. Yeah, it is bizarre when Tim was like, hey, we're going to reach out to Doug and see if he can come on the show. I'm like, you're going to do, you have his email? You're, he's responded to you in the past and he will, you think he'll do that again, huh? Definitely responded. Yeah, there you go. Happy to do it. But, Doug, that's why you're you.

You're a man of the people. in the past and he will you think he'll do that again huh definitely responded yeah there you go

happy to do it but dug that's why you're you're the you're a man of the people even even

people people people and people people you like guys like tim and that's uh it's a big deal we appreciate

that Doug hello welcome again to off track with hinge or rossi the Tuesday show is sometimes

in either or program,

and today Alex is not here. I'm just going to take, I'm just noticing something right off the bat.

Are you, are you a desk stander? Are you standing at a desk right now? I do both. So the desk

actually goes up and down. I actually have a little treadmill underneath. I can't sit still,

right? That's my biggest problem. But there are moments where I will sit down, but most of the time I love to stand. So I have a standing desk here. I'm at the IMS office right now and also I have a standing desk over at IndyCar. In the summer, then I just try and like get my steps back and forth between the two, so I'll do whatever I can to keep moving. If you need help learning how to sit down, I'm really good at it.

Arguably too good, Tim. Arguably too good. Yeah. So yeah, steps on the treadmill under the desk

during office and then in between getting steps going from office to office. Today's a little cold, right?

And I wouldn't, but when the weather's nice, yeah, it makes for a nice walk. And I can always do conference calls or whatever walking around up and down the grandstand. So if you ever call me during the day and we have a conference call and I sound like I'm out of breath, I'm probably hiking up and down steps the speedway, taking notes as well. You know, the stuff to fix you know it's it's a it's a good

opportunity for me to drive everybody crazy here with notes of things we need to keep working on this

I mean look everybody knows you're the hardest working guy in motorsports and you know I think

that was even before you had to take on a second job of running indy car that was just on the

track side of things.

Now you're doing both.

Tell me that the offseason for you is at least slightly less manic than when you're, you know,

I know there's no probably time off for Doug Bowles,

but not having to chase IndyCar around for 17 weekends a year whilst also doing everything you do wearing both hats. Is it a little bit calmer right now? It's actually worse. And I think that's a lot of it's because you know how it is you get in the season because you do this. You get in the season, you get a cadence going. So your body gets used to, okay, I got to fly out this day or drive out this day to get to an event. Here's what happens in an event. I'm coming home

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