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Welcome to the Double X Gap Fest for Thursday, March 11th.

This is Hannah Rosen, co-editor of Double X.

I am here in the studio with our guest Y chromosome, who is Jack Schaefer, who joins us occasionally,

and Slate Media Critic. And in New York, we have Jessica Grosser, managing editor. Hi, Jess.

Hi. Today we are going to discuss Liz Cheney's campaign against the Al-Qaeda 7, the evil

Liz Cheney, and Catherine Bigelow and whether she won just because she's a lady making a war movie, then we're going to talk about this weird study showing that Americans are too tired to have sex in which I'll ask you both a lot of personal questions. I'm just kidding. So let's start with Liz Cheney's. She has started this group called Keep America Safe, which she started a couple of months ago. And they've made a video which questions the loyalty of certain Justice Department lawyers

who have defended accused terrorists.

So the interesting angle on the story is that all of these conservatives have kind of jumped on her

and criticized her for this, all these sort of former Bush Justice Department officials saying

she's being cynical and sort of disrespectful of the constitutional rights of the terrorists.

You know, it's really just kind of amazing watching this video.

I mean, I think it's really incredibly indefensible, although I have some interesting things to say about it.

But Jack, do you want to defend her madness? Can you want to explain it? No, don't defend it. Can you just explain to us what the Liz Cheney M.O. is? I think it's pure adjut prop. And I think that anybody who takes her seriously and really tries to think through it and make sense of her is falling into her trap. I don't think for a minute she believes that. She's grabbing

herself by the ass and holding herself out in arm's length. And everybody's taking pictures.

Everybody is very excited.

Who Liz is a porn star. That's...

Liz is a porn star. I don't think she can take it seriously. It seems to me like how does

how does she plant the flag? How how does she say how does she occupy the

position that she wants to keep America safer than anybody else and I think that's primarily what

it's what it's about this is so interesting to me because I was thinking about it first of all

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