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for Thursday, June 28th. The Still Not Having It All Edition. I'm Hannah Rosen, editor of Double X.

I'm joined in the New York studio today by Alison Benedict, another editor of Double X. Hi, Alison. Hi, Hannah.

And Noreen Malone, who is a blogger for New York Magazine. Hi, Noreen. Hey, Hannah. And today we have a special guest, Anne Marie Slaughter, who wrote the Atlantic cover story, Why Women Can't Have It All, which has caused such an uproar and has been such a sensation. Hi, Ann Marie. Hi, Hannah. Why women still can't have it.

Still.

I always forget the still.

That's a really important word. Exactly, because all the way along. We'll talk about still. We can start it that way. But let me just go through our topics. We're going to talk to Anne Marie first about her cover story. Second, we're going to talk about Pixar's new movie Brave and what it means that they've chosen a girl heroin.

And third, we're going to talk about Pixar's new movie, Brave and what it means that they've chosen a girl heroin.

And third, we're going to talk about the unparenting movement, the idea that kids have too much privilege and authority and not enough chores these days.

So, Anne-Marie, this cover story has been amazing.

I interviewed Anne-Marie early on before the thing had been published and we had a nice little chat.

And now it just exploded.

I mean, it is the most clicked story in Atlantic history, which is kind of amazing.

It's clearly an eternal topic, which is why I think you brought up the still, right?

Is that why the still is so important in this?

No, the still is because otherwise I'm a poster woman for saying women can't have it all,

when in fact I want to be saying women can and men can, but we have to make a whole bunch of

changes to get there. So this is forward looking, not backward looking, and certainly not

categorical statement.

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