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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

DoubleX Gabfest: The Marshmallow Test Edition

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Sexuality, News

4.2897 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2013

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Hanna Rosin, June Thomas and Noreen Malone discuss if American schools are too conformist, whether online dating is making us more politically polarized and the rising mortality rate among poor white women.


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0:00.0

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0:24.3

Welcome to the double X gap fest for Thursday, September 5th, the marshmallow test edition.

0:29.8

I'm Hannah Rosen.

0:30.9

I'm in the D.C. studio, and I am joined in New York by June Thomas, Slate's culture critic

0:35.3

and editor of the outward blog.

0:36.8

Hi, June.

0:37.3

Hey, Hannah. And also Noreen Malone of Outward blog. Hi, June. Hey, Hannah.

0:38.4

And also Noreen Malone of the New Republic. Hi, Noreen. Hello. Before we get started,

0:43.2

I want to announce that we are having a live show right near Washington, D.C. The show is sponsored

0:49.0

by the George Mason Center for the Study of Gender and Conflict. It's on Wednesday, September 18th. It's

0:55.1

going to be held on the Arlington campus of the university. So please, everyone in the D.C. area, buy your tickets. You can buy them from the Slate homepage. We would love to see you there. It's going to be me, Noreen, and Dan Coy. Sorry, June, you're excluded. They wanted a man. Can you believe it. They asked me specifically

1:10.8

because they have, you know, military people around.

1:13.1

Can we have a man come? So I submitted. Typical patriarchy, exactly. Anyway, I submitted. Okay, our three topics for today. First, are American schools failing nonconformist kids? Do they put too much emphasis on self-control and give not enough

1:28.1

breathing room for the unruly wild child? Second, is online dating making us more politically

1:34.6

polarized because we want to date people who are just like us, and that is bad for America.

1:40.3

And third, what is happening to poor white women? It has been recently discovered that they have a higher mortality rate than their mothers did, which is slightly shocking in an industrialized rich country like ours.

1:52.5

And so we explore what on earth is going on.

1:56.1

Let's start with American schools.

1:58.3

Does everyone remember that famous marshmallow test where a group of

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