Brian Ler on WNYC and now we'll end today's show by exposing the secret and taking your calls about the secret to having an actual vacation with your kids. Yesterday was the last day of school

for New York City public school kids. For example, I'm sure a lot of you from any district

are planning on taking advantage of summer vacation to get out of the area for a family getaway,

but maybe the last time you traveled with taunts, you realized the venture wasn't as

restful as you hoped it would be. After all, you still have to parent your kids, no matter where in the

world you are, right? As a good friend of mine once said to me when my kids were little,

there's no such thing as a vacation with children, just a change of venue. And yes, I could

see the heads nodding in agreement out there as you laugh a little and maybe cry a little at that

notion. No such thing as a vacation with children, just a change of venue. But if you haven't

booked your trip yet, but you're hoping to travel with your children this summer.

You're going to want to hear this secret from Samantha Darby.

Our guest joining us now.

She's a senior lifestyle editor for Rompter.

And here she is.

Samantha, welcome to WNYC.

Hi, Brian.

Thank you so much for having me.

Okay, now that you have parents on the edge of their seats, what is your secret to an actual vacation with kids? Oh my gosh. As a mom of three, the secret and it's pretty simple and

pretty cost effective, is to go on a vacation with your friends who also have kids. Yes. So listeners,

tell us your stories. Validate this notion or not. Have you vacationed with

family friends? What makes another family compatible to travel with? How did you divide the labor

of planning, meal preparation, childcare, anything else that needed to get done? Do you have any double

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