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DOUBLE EXECUTION

Intimate Knowledge

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Society & Culture

3.3697 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Tonight, two men died by lethal injection despite last ditch efforts to have their executions stayed. In Missouri, Lance Shockely maintained his innocence until his final hour. And the state of Florida executed its 15th and one of its oldest inmates, 72 year-old Samuel Lee Smithers. Amy and T.J. go over the details in both of these cases and discuss the reason why our country has drastically picked up its execution pace this year.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:05.7

Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 14th.

0:09.4

Tonight, two inmates have been executed, making the 36th and 37th to be executed in the United States this year.

0:19.1

And one of them maintained his innocence till the end.

0:24.5

Welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J., where we rogues, we've been covering this for several weeks.

0:30.7

You could say months now where the United States seems to be on a bit of a tear.

0:34.6

You could argue but an uptick in the number of executions six were

0:39.7

scheduled over an eight-day stretch two of them tonight that's pretty remarkable and

0:45.6

this has been a a record-setting year for Florida I believe previously the largest number of executions in one year was eight.

0:57.9

We're already up to number 14 with more scheduled. That is remarkable.

1:03.7

We're used to Texas, I guess, leading the way. You don't even have to look at statistics,

1:08.4

and folks just understand that Texas usually leads

1:11.6

the way, but Florida is way out ahead this year. Now, what happened tonight, there was one execution

1:17.0

in Missouri. Another one was in Florida. I'll start just the latest on Lance Shockley. He is the one

1:24.6

convicted killer out of Missouri, convicted of murdering a state trooper.

1:28.9

He was denied clemency by the governor on Monday.

1:32.7

Courts have turned down all of his pleas to have new evidence.

1:37.3

We'll get into that in a second, but he was turned down at every turn.

1:40.4

And then finally, the execution was at 6 o'clock local time at a correctional facility in

1:46.5

Bontair, Missouri.

1:48.3

That's right.

1:48.9

And it was on Monday that the Missouri governor announced his decision to reject Shockley's

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