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The Sleeping At Last Podcast

"Double Down (Pragma)"

The Sleeping At Last Podcast

Sleeping At Last

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4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Atlas: III continues! In this episode, I have the privilege of sharing how my new Atlas: III song, "Double Down (Pragma)" took shape. Inspired by the Green definition of love, Pragma, I wrote this as a long song for my wife, Cayt. Links! Listen to "Double Down (Pragma)" on Spotify, Apple Music, etc.: https://fanlink.tv/SALPragma Sleeping At Last Upcoming Shows: https://www.sleepingatlast.com/tour Listen to "My Favorite Things" on Spotify, Apple Music, etc.: https://fanlink.tv/SALFavoriteThings Listen to "Lean On Me" on Spotify, Apple Music, etc.: https://fanlink.tv/SALLeanOnMe Listen to "Tell Me The Truth and I'll Believe it" on Spotify, Apple Music, etc.: https://fanlink.tv/TellMeTheTruth Subscribe to get early access to Atlas: III songs, for free via Letters: www.sleepingatlast.com

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0:00.0

Hello, thank you so much for pressing play. My name is Ryan O'Neill. I make music under the name

0:05.0

Sleeping at Last, and this is the Sleeping at Last podcast. Welcome.

0:15.1

Today I am so excited to talk to you about the latest song in my Atlas project, a song called Double Down

0:21.7

Pragma. This song is the 12th song in Atlas 3 and is the 67th song in my entire Atlas

0:29.4

collection, which is wild. It's actually kind of hard for me to wrap my head around because

0:34.0

Atlas as a whole is going to be roughly 80 songs long. And so as this 67th song

0:40.1

finds its way into the world, I am becoming ever more aware that this project is going to come

0:46.8

to the finish line in the near future here. And that's wild. This project Atlas has meant the

0:52.9

world to me. It has been my world for a long while now.

0:57.3

And yeah, I'm very, very excited for this final chapter in Atlas and to put out these

1:04.2

new songs.

1:05.9

Before we dive in and talk about double down pragma and all that went into that song and

1:10.1

listened to it together.

1:11.6

I wanted to share a few new pieces of music that I put out since the last episode of this

1:16.0

podcast. And I wanted to tell you about some shows that I have coming up that I am so,

1:21.2

so excited about. The first one is in Orlando, Florida on February 28, 26. I will be joined by a full orchestra, the Chicago Philharmonic.

1:30.7

It will be at the Walt Disney Theater in Orlando. I cannot wait. I hope to see you. Tickets are on

1:35.8

sale now. And I just announced my first ever Europe tour. I am so excited about that in

1:42.4

26. I will be playing about a dozen shows out there,

1:47.5

and I am beyond excited. Tickets for all those shows are on sale. Those will be intimate,

1:52.0

mostly solo performances, and I cannot wait. It will be so wonderful, not only to get to

1:57.7

play those places for the first time, but to actually visit those places

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