Welcome to the Mad in America podcast, your source for science, psychiatry and social justice.

Hello, this is James and welcome to the Madden America podcast. And this week, MIA correspondent

Leah Harris interviews psychiatric survivor Dorothy Dundas.

But just before we get to the interview, if you appreciate the rarely heard critical and

social justice perspectives you hear on the Madden America podcast, please consider making a tax

deductible donation via our homepage at maddenamerica.com. Our work is made possible

through the generous contributions of listeners like you. Thank you for listening and enjoy the podcast.

Welcome to the Madden America podcast. My name is Leah Harris. I'm a political correspondent with

Madden America, a psychiatric survivor activist.

And it is my pleasure to introduce you to Dorothy Dundas.

She's also a psychiatric survivor activist, a mother, mentor, and an incredible supporter of activists in all of our movement building work going back

several decades. And so it's just such a pleasure to have you on the podcast, Dorothy. Welcome.

Thanks, Leah. So I thought we would just get right into it. And I would love it if you could tell the

listeners, just share with them a little And I would love it if you could tell the listeners,

just share with them a little bit of the story of how you found this movement, how you got

involved, and how did it all sort of get started? Well, it's really, it's really interesting

because back when I was married in 1978, and I had four children, and my husband at the time was a psychiatrist,

and he said, will come to a meeting with me.

There was a psychiatric meeting downtown in Boston, and you might be interested.

So I went with him to the meeting, only I never actually got to the meeting because in the lobby,

right by the stairs, there was a sign that was an arrow pointing down to the basement saying Judy Chamberlain reading

from her new book behind locked doors.

...