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🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Prolific, five-time James Beard Award-winning cookbook author Dorie Greenspan is the queen of sweets, and she just released her 15th cookbook, Dorie’s Anytime Cakes.
Famous for her beloved World Peace Cookies and many baking books, including one she wrote with Julia Child, it's not surprising that Dorie wants to start and end her last meal with dessert. What's wrong with eating dessert first, anyway? Rachel chats with Ayurvedic counselor Jodi Boone about the life-bettering benefits of starting your meal with sweets.
And when Dorie told Rachel she ate the same exact lunch every single day for years, the first person we thought of was Donald Gorske. Gorske has eaten almost nothing but McDonald's Big Macs since 1972, putting his current Big Mac count at over 35,000. Rachel called the Fond du Lac, Wisconsin native on his flip phone to learn why the man eats two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun ... Every. Single. Day.
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| 0:00.0 | Alaska Airlines has teamed up with Hawaiian Airlines to offer nonstop flights from Seattle to Tokyo |
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| 0:24.2 | I'm Rachel Bell, and this is your last meal. The show where celebrities share stories about the foods they love most, and we dig into |
| 0:28.9 | the history, culture, or science of those meals with experts from around the world. |
| 0:34.1 | Today, I am re-airing an interview with Dory Greenspan, cookbook author, five-time James Beard |
| 0:40.9 | Award winner, and beloved baker. |
| 0:43.4 | Dory just released her 15th cookbook, Dory's Anytime Cakes. |
| 0:48.4 | And she loves sweets so much for her last meal. |
| 0:52.0 | She wants to have dessert first, which we will learn is a much |
| 0:55.9 | accepted practice in the world of Iyerveda, a 5,000-year-old Indian medical system. Later in the |
| 1:02.2 | show, an Ierveda counselor will join the show to tell us more. And when it comes to meals, |
| 1:08.6 | are you a creature of habit? Donald Gorski certainly is. He secured a |
| 1:13.3 | world record back in 1999, which he still holds today, for eating the most Big Macs. Donald has |
| 1:20.3 | eaten more than 35,000 Big Macs, and he eats at least two every day. You are not going to want to |
| 1:26.9 | miss this interview. |
| 1:28.2 | But first, my in-studio conversation with Dory Greenspan from 2019. |
| 1:40.6 | I want to know about your history because I learned a new word today. |
| 1:44.0 | I saw that you were going to school for gerontology. |
| 1:48.6 | Did I pronounce that right? |
| 1:49.4 | Yeah, you did. |
| 1:50.0 | You did a good job. |
| 1:50.8 | Okay. |
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