Dorian Abbot: From Climate and Exoplanets to DEI and Free Speech.
The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss
Lawrence M. Krauss
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🗓️ 21 April 2022
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
Dorian Abbot is an associate professor of geophysics at the University of Chicago, who uses mathematical and computational models to understand and explain fundamental problems in Earth and Planetary Sciences. His work on climate, and paleoclimate in particular is particularly important as we try and determine the likelihood that some exoplanets may be habitable. This is an area where may claims are made, most often on the basis of far too little solid evidence, so Dorian’s computer models have been particularly useful as we try and separate the wheat from the chaff in trying to determine if we are indeed alone in the Universe.
He and I discussed the evolution of climate on Earth, and the important features that may determine habitability elsewhere in the cosmos. And then we turned to an issue that has made his name far more recognizable outside of the scientific community.
Earlier this year, he was invited to give a named public lecture at MIT on climate, climate change, and exoplanet habitability. Previously, he and a colleague had written an unrelated op-ed piece in Newsweek that argued that “American universities are undergoing a profound transformation that threatens to derail their primary mission: “the production and dissemination of knowledge.” He laid the blame—as I and a number of my colleagues have independently also argued—on new "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" bloated bureaucracies at US universities that are stifling free speech, open inquiry, and merit based promotion.
As if to prove his point, under pressure from various social media complainants, MIT cancelled Abbot’s public lecture (which was later given online through a group at Princeton University). The subsequent uproar over the MIT cancellation has prompted many people to argue that it is time to rein in the current almost religious DEI proscriptions against open debate and discussion on these issues. Dorian and I discussed his experience, and ways to try and address this current problem with higher education.
I found the discussion provocative and enlightening. I hope you will too.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Lawrence Krause and welcome to the origins podcast. |
| 0:12.4 | This episode is with the geophysicist Dorian Abbott. |
| 0:16.4 | Dorian is a young and upcoming associate professor at the University of Chicago whose research |
| 0:21.6 | involves mathematical modeling of climate, complex issues like cloud feedback and other things. |
| 0:27.6 | And that leads him to try not just to understand climate today, but also the paleo climate of the earth, |
| 0:32.6 | the ancient history of the earth and how climate has changed. |
| 0:35.6 | And of course that's led his research not just to thinking |
| 0:38.0 | about climate here on Earth, but equally interesting, or for some people more interesting, |
| 0:42.0 | the possible climates on exoplanets. Because if we ever want to understand habitable planets, |
| 0:47.9 | which planets might be habitable, we need to understand how climate might occur and respond |
| 0:53.7 | in environments that are very different than |
| 0:55.4 | those on Earth. And Dorian has done a lot of work in those areas. And we talked a lot about |
| 0:59.2 | climate and the early history of life and the evolution of our climate here on Earth and also |
| 1:04.2 | possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. But Dorian also became of public interest recently. |
| 1:09.9 | He was asked to give a public lecture at MIT on climate and exoplanets. |
| 1:15.7 | And that lecture was canceled as a result of an op-ed he'd written earlier in Newsweek magazine |
| 1:22.1 | criticizing current diversity, equity inclusion practices at universities, which he argued, |
| 1:26.9 | worked against merit. |
| 1:29.2 | And that created a furor, that cancellation created a furor not just at MIT, but throughout |
| 1:33.1 | the academic community and among the public. |
| 1:36.6 | And Dorian later gave his lecture through an organization at MIT, an online lecture. |
| 1:41.2 | So we talked about that issue at universities and his concern and mine about what's going on in terms of free speech and |
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