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Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Dopamine Dressing: How Clothes Can Boost Your Mood with Marie Claire’s Editor-in-Chief (Nikki Ogunnaike)

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Comedy, Education

4.921.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

What if getting dressed could actually help you feel better? This week, JVN sits down with Marie Claire Editor-in-Chief Nikki Ogunnaike to talk about dopamine dressing, personal style, and why fashion is so much deeper than just clothes. Together, they get into how to figure out what your style really is, why “everything is fashion,” and how vintage, retail, and finding a good deal can all shape the way we express ourselves. BIO: Named editor-in-chief of Marie Claire (US), Nikki Ogunnaike is among a new wave of women driving fresh relevance across fashion titles (The Washington Post saluted her and her peers in a recent collective profile). Previously at Harper’s Bazaar in the role of senior digital director, she has a strong following through social channels and an all-around style that resonates with younger readers. In this new chapter for the reliable women’s magazine, Ogunnaike’s direction signals broader representation of faces and voices through fashion, beauty and news coverage, while appearing sharper and more accessible than ever. Nikki is a Nigerian-American style expert who cut her teeth at publications such as Vanity Fair, InStyle, Glamour, ELLE, and GQ. Full Getting Better Video Episodes now available on YouTube.  Follow Nikki Ogunaike on Instagram @nikkiogun Follow us on Instagram @gettingbetterwithjvn Jonathan on Instagram @jvn Executive Producer, Chris McClure Producer, Editor & Engineer is Nathanael McClure Production support from Chad Hall Our theme music is also composed by Nathanael McClure. Check out the JVN Patreon for exclusive BTS content, extra interviews, and much much more - check it out here: www.patreon.com/jvn  Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey Better Babes, welcome back to Getting Better. Today, we're going to talk about something that's very

0:04.3

powerful, but also fun and a little bit different, dopamine dressing. Our fashion is so much

0:10.3

more than how we look. It's how we feel. It's how we're perceived. But there's gender, there's

0:15.5

finances, there is location, and all of that factors into how we fashion. How can we feel better about our fashion?

0:22.9

Well, honey, there's a very interesting, amazing expert that's here to talk to us about it today.

0:26.9

The editor-in-chief of Marie Claire, none other than Nikki Ogunaki.

0:31.9

Let's get to our conversation.

0:33.5

Let's dive into dopamine dressing.

0:37.0

Nikki, welcome to getting better. How are you? I'm great. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited that you're here. I was giving you my best dopamine dressing today. I'm obsessed. I'm giving you LaPont. Oh, Sally. I love Sally so much. She's the best. Yeah. And she gives me so much dopamine with her use of textures. And I was like, give it to me.

0:55.2

You know, we're in the middle of like what I do think is quickly becoming maybe...

1:01.0

The longest winter ever.

1:02.2

Yes.

1:03.0

Yeah.

1:03.3

Yeah.

1:03.7

And so I was like, I think never better time for us to talk about like finding our best style, dopamine dressing, and really like finding more joy through expressing ourselves with our fashion. Yeah. So we're here to learn about today. So thanks for helping us. Thank you. Yes. So when you think about finding your style, what does that feel like for you? Finding my style, and I think like finding anyone's style, the number one tip that I like to give is that it takes time.

1:33.0

Like I think a lot of people want to go to a store, or they want to see a mannequin, or they're scrolling online.

1:40.9

And they're like, I must have that style, like copy and paste that style. Right. But that's not really what it's about. I really think it's about having like a lived experience, you know,

1:46.0

going out, going to museums, going to restaurants, like deciding, you know, what you're going to do for work,

1:45.3

and then figuring out how your style can fit into that.

1:48.6

Yes. Like, I've been in this moment because of my business manager. And she wants me to, like,

1:54.4

make better intentional decisions around, like, impulse buying. So I've really been trying to be

1:59.8

that person. And, like, literally this week, I had this, like, row two piece. So I've really been trying to be that person. And like literally this week, I had this like row two piece. And I never thought that I should wear them separately. Oh. I don't know why I did that. But the copy paste comment made me think about that. So I paired this sweater with these jeans. And it was so cute. Yeah. And I was like, why didn't I do that sooner? That's the thing, though. I think that people often think that, like, you have to wear the one outfit the one way. But really, if you can get into your closet, if you can set time aside, like, everyone does, everyone tries to put together like a new look or a new outfit, like five minutes before they have to leave the door. And that is not the time you should be doing that. You should really be taking a Sunday or taking a couple of hours and setting aside some

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