I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

And welcome to another episode of the Bakari Settles podcast.

Today I got a, you know, everybody who come on the show, I call him a friend, but I got a friend on the show who is a better writer than I who is

brilliant in his own right none other than Donovan Ramsey what's going on my brother

how you doing bakari it's great to be here it's great to be. What part of the world are you in the day?

I'm in the Bay Area. I'm here actually recording the the audio book.

Tell me about that audio book process. I hated it. I felt like it was

torture. It's very difficult. People don't understand. I forgot how to read halfway

through. Right. Yeah. No, no, the thing for me is that I'm reading and I'm like, man, why did I write this like this? Like, some of these words don't go together. I would never actually say this. Exactly. But you know when you're writing, you're like in like a whole different bag. So yeah, no, it was it was words when I was writing that I never actually like I was stuttering you know and then I had a my throat was hurting halfway

Yeah it was a it was a whole thing but I'm glad you're actually reading it look

We started each one of our episodes The same as we ask our guests to walk us through the

arc of their careers and you've been through some of the country's top outlets

New York Times the Atlantic GQ Wall Street Journal Ebonyony, Essent, you name it.

You've also been on the staff at LA Times News One in the Grio.

How did you get to all of those different doors

in this line of work for Morehouse College?

Yeah, I would say a lot of hard work, a lot of prayers, a lot of just like blessings from from God and really the like help of some like key people. You know that anytime you are really just a black American trying to make a way within industry.

You know, you need allies and like co-conspirators

to kind of help your career. And I've had more of those that I think I probably deserve.

You know, as you said, I graduated from Morehouse. Morehouse for me was always say the best decision.

The first really good decision that I made for myself,

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