Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to

Talk Shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode

here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their

process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled

veteran, cranking out a bare minimum quota of seven songs per week

or else a scrappy upstart, penning a single song per year that you are quite sure is your

magnum opus. This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the first Friday of July 2022, and I thank you for joining us.

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