Let's get back to you better. You bet with Nick Kostos and Ken Barkley presented by Betz

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of course is always with us. It's brought you by them. Bet MGM now Ken. This one kind of came

out of nowhere because did you see Cleveland getting in on the mix on this because I wasn't

reading anything about that. I just thought I thought the Knicks were going to bend. They were

going to trade Quentin Grimes given the picks that they wanted. But ultimately we see Don of

a Mitchell go to the cab. So initially what were your thoughts on the return, the trade and the

Knicks not getting in the course. Well the craziest part to Jeremy is we were we were doing the show

yesterday when the story broke right. So it's about actually about 20 minutes 20 minutes ago in

terms of showtime yesterday. So almost 24 hours ago we're in the lobby about to go to break

basically in the last segment. And Jerry Ferrara an actor from on Turtle from Otter Ash.

It was not coming on to do an interview with us. He's a podcast also under the kind of the Bet

MGM umbrella and came on and was going to come on no matter what but he's in the lobby.

And the story breaks right as we're going to break and Nick teases it as like and Don of

a Mitchell there's a crazy trade and you can see Jerry Ferrara you can't see him if you were watching

but we can see kind of his window and he's looking at his phone and he just goes like and he's

a huge next fan. He just is like I can't believe it basically so we ended up spending half the interview

just talking to him about because again like that's all we want to talk about his initial reaction

to everything. And my initial reaction I actually don't think I've changed my opinion on this

with both you know like why calves and not anybody else and then kind of like a long term what

is this may Cleveland I think those are two different topics but I feel like I whatever I thought

in the moment the more I thought about I think I still feel that way. I don't think I've like

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