Well, if you like learning about things in narrative form, you're in for a special treat today.

Stay tuned.

Thank you. We're here today with our special friend Donna Van Lear, and we're here to talk to you about her book, Daniel's final week.

She writes so fast, we actually interviewed her about her first book several seasons ago.

We actually missed her second book, so we're glad to have her back again today.

Donna, welcome to the show.

Thanks.

Thanks, Todd.

Thanks, Jeff.

Thank you.

A little bit about Donna. She is a New York Times and USA Today bestselling author and has had six novels turned

into Made for TV movies, including Christmas shoes. She's a long-time student

of Bible prophecy and is passionate about speaking and teaching about the hope found in scripture.

And Don, I just want to commend you for kind of breaking out of your norm and just having this

calling for teaching about Bible prophecy in a way that we don't often write about, but in a narrative form that people can

really latch on to. And so what do you have to say about that? What led you to that? And how did

you feel called to write these three books? Well, I grew up in a church that talked about the

return of Christ. Our pastor would say it. Visiting pastors would say it. Missionaries would come. They would say it.

But then I noticed that when I became an adult, nobody was saying it anymore from the podium.

And it wasn't something that dawned on me right away. It took years. But I would go to church

Sunday after Sunday after Sunday after Sunday

and think, what is missing? There is something missing in this equation. And then it dawned on me

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