Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation?

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor back to back tonight.

It is the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true

crime.

Tonight, two of my favorites.

And one of the funniest who sent me all stays, you sent me a hilarious photo.

And we posted on my Instagram page of our,

Larry and I were both on Vinny Politan show Friday night to discuss Donna Adelson.

And there was something I couldn't catch because when you're a guest on Court TV,

you can't really see the other guests.

But I will leave you all hanging.

I will post it on Instagram at Surviving the Survivor,

and I can tell you that you will probably get a kick out of it

and also think Larry is as crazy as you really think he is.

By the way, if you guys don't know our best guests,

Tim Jansen, the famed criminal defense attorney R. Timothy Jansen, R, the letter,

and also OUR, also a former federal prosecutor. But he never put Larry away, but Larry did spend

10 years in federal prisons for a variety of charges. And one of the most interesting things about

Larry to me that I will never forget,

I don't think, till my dying day, is he said he sort of enjoyed prison because he did not

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