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of Surviving the survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you

the very best guests in all of true crime.

And today, the topic is the one that it appears STS Nation most likes us to discuss and ask questions about.

So once again, we are talking Donna Adelson.

She's had a couple of court hearings, of course,

one in Miami after her arrest trying to flee to Vietnam

and then in Tallahassee. And what she is due back in court on Monday

but for the time being and possibly for the foreseeable future she is a resident of Tallahassee, Florida, a place that is ironic because

she wanted her grandkids so desperately to leave there and now her son Charlie not far away I think just about 30 minutes away in

what color which I was calling wakula but I now know to call what color and we are

working diligently behind the scenes to try to get you a tour of the Wachala

correctional facility and the man with the bovine behind him is one person who might be able to help us get there. I already

reached out to the warden and I got a basic one-word answer about a tour

there. The answer was no, and I responded, does this mean ever? Is that a permanent

no and I never heard back? So I'm going to keep working on them. I never take no for an

answer the first time around, but let me introduce best

guests here. I hate to get myself put into a color prison just to get a tour by doing something

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