Welcome to us again the conversations that matter podcast for a crisp and beautiful morning here as spring starts to turn

into summer. I wanted to share with you some quick thoughts before the live stream later today.

I'll let you know about that actually first.

The live stream is at 2 p.m. if you can make it and this is on the 11th of May 2023

year of our Lord. So if you're listening after this has taken place so you can't

participate. You can go back and listen to what happened, but if you're listening to this before

that particular live stream, I would just encourage you if you have questions

about Christianity and government and what the Christians role is and whether or not

the government should be self-aware of Christianity and acknowledge

Christianity and govern in a Christian way and all the various conversations

that have been going on about cultural Christianity and Christian political engagement.

I would encourage you come by at 2 p.m. Eastern time today and if you're in the live chat just

ask me whatever question you want. I'll try to pitch as many as I can to

John Idzmo who's our guest and then if you're a patron of course you can

participate live if you wish. John Idzmo has been in this arena for a long time. He was in the military,

now he's with a foundation for moral law which is a think tank slash I guess

legal firm. he I understand has some theological training actually

judge Saul's the one that said you got to get John Idzmo on to talk about this stuff

so we're doing it we're doing it one other thing before I get into some of the thoughts that I wanted

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