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Donald Trump Should Probably Stop Dancing in the Street

The Mother Jones Podcast

Mother Jones

Elections, Politics, Scoops, Investigations, Journalism, News

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

We all craved a clear resolution after special counsel Robert Mueller submitted his report to Attorney General William Barr over the weekend. No such luck: We are left untangling what the combination of "no collusion" and "no obstruction" actually means, and the jury's out on obstruction of justice. Nonetheless, Trump has turned the result into an inevitable victory lap, with characteristic Trumpian vengeance. Speaking in the Oval Office on Monday, Trump said he had been victimized by Mueller’s investigation, and, ominously, he'd be taking "a look" at those he deemed responsible. So, where are we right now? Put simply, we are in a kind of political wilderness, without a roadmap, or an actual report to read, and lots of unanswered questions. In the podcast studio with host Jamilah King this week, David Corn, Washington, DC, Bureau Chief, and national security and foreign influence reporter, Dan Friedman help sort things out in the post-Mueller investigation world.

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0:00.0

This is the Mother Jones podcast. I'm Jamila King in New York.

0:04.4

On today's show, Trump goes nuclear.

0:16.5

You wanted resolution after Mueller submitted his report

0:19.2

over the weekend, no such luck.

0:21.3

I counted, I have like 1.4 million unanswered questions.

0:24.5

While you wait for a full report that might never come,

0:27.9

everything you need to know about what we don't know right now.

0:31.9

A president can get away with a lot if the public doesn't give a damn.

0:35.3

The media hand-ringing and what it means for 2020. It is an uphill battle. The headwinds are strong and powerful.

0:45.7

Strap yourselves in. Trump's victory lap quickly turned vengeful this week, of course. There are a lot of people out there that have done some very, very evil things, very bad things.

1:09.8

I would say treasonous things against our country.

1:13.1

Those people will certainly be looked at. His team named and shamed enemies and those who let this lie fly for two years

1:26.0

Haranging and harassing and trying to embarrass and worse those of us connected to 2016 campaign beginning with the president and his own family

1:34.4

really do owe people oh America an apology as allies fanned out in war formation

1:39.9

across television to claim ultimate vindication.

1:44.0

And those who have now spent 22 months wasting their time,

1:50.0

really two and a half years since the day he was elected,

1:52.0

are now running out of time for

1:53.5

2020. No collusion was of course the big headline. There was no collusion with

1:59.3

Russia. But the message was pure revenge. And it began illegally.

2:04.5

And hopefully somebody's going to look at the other side.

2:07.7

This was an illegal takedown that failed. And hopefully somebody's going to be looking at the other side.

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