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WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

Donald Trump's Order Targeting 'Debanking'

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.22.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump signs an executive order designed to combat 'debanking,' which deprives individuals and businesses of financial services. How bad is the problem, what's in the Trump order, and will it be enough to rein in regulators that put pressure on banks to cancel customers that supposedly pose "reputational risk"? Or does Congress also need to pass legislation making the changes permanent, reforming the Bank Secrecy Act, and encouraging more bank competition?

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0:00.0

From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Potomac Watch.

0:08.5

Donald Trump signs a new executive order cracking down on debanking.

0:13.5

What is it? How big a problem is it? And how much will this order actually do to combat the practice?

0:20.0

Welcome to the Potomac Watch podcast, the daily podcast of

0:23.7

the Wall Street Journal editorial page. I'm Kim Strassel, your host today, and I'm joined by two colleagues

0:29.6

who last I knew had not been debanked, but nonetheless know a lot about the question, Alicia Finley

0:35.8

and Manet Uquay-Bruwa. Before we even get to the executive order, let's just talk about the question, Alicia Finley and Manet Uquay-Brurua. Before we even get to the executive

0:39.7

order, let's just talk about the issue for a second. Debanking is the circumstance in which an

0:45.0

individual or an entity in an industry loses access to financial services often because they

0:51.4

are declared, and even though they may not be told this, a reputational

0:55.8

risk for the bank. No less than Donald Trump says it has happened to him. Let's hear him talk

1:01.5

about the experience. I'll give you me as an example. I had hundreds of millions. I had many,

1:06.5

many accounts loaded up with cash. I was loaded up with cash and they told me, I'm sorry, sir,

1:14.6

we can't have you. You have 20 days to get out. Then what happens is I call a Bank of America

1:20.6

routinely. And I speak to him and I speak to a couple of people and they have zero interest.

1:26.6

I ended up going to small banks all

1:29.0

over the place. I mean, I was putting 10 million here, 10 million there, 5 million, 10 million,

1:35.6

12 million. I have them all over the place. It's the craziest thing. And that's because the banks

1:41.1

discriminated against me very badly. And I was very good to the banks. I had the

1:45.1

greatest economy in the history of our country when I was president. They totally discriminate

1:49.2

against, I think me maybe even more, but they discriminated against many conservatives.

1:53.8

You know, I told that story and sitting around tables with other people that were conservative

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